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Does sea level rise invalidate the "ocean cycles cause warming" theory?
Topic Started: Jun 20 2010, 07:35 PM (442 Views)
dorlomin

The theory that ocean cycles are largely responsible for the recent heating is getting alot of play in certain sections of the internet recently. I have been countering this with the challange that a body releasing heat cannot be simultaneously expanding due to thermal expansion.




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Is this correct or have I been getting it wrong?
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SkyHunter

This is a typical example of how many misinterpret evidence. Ocean cycles are the dominant short term climate drivers. However, if they were giving up more energy than they were absorbing, sea levels would not be rising at the rate they are.

Good luck with your argument. It has been my experience that if someone has already made up their mind, no amount of evidence will convince them otherwise.


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svatli

Just to add to this discussion... I don't think that an argument made on a websites (or other places) which is based on misinterpretation is totally wasted. My argument for this is, that there are some readers out there who are able to make up their mind based on solid arguments, therefor it's important to keep on making comments on those kind of websites. You will not necessary get through to those with their mind already convinced, but there is a chance you'll get the message to some of the readers who haven't had the opportunity to see the other side of the argument or for some other reason are trying to figure things out on those websites (which in some cases are set up in a "scientific" way).

So perhaps there is a chance to get to people by this way, otherwise we wouldn't be bothered...or what ;)
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svatli
Jun 22 2010, 11:22 PM
Just to add to this discussion... I don't think that an argument made on a websites (or other places) which is based on misinterpretation is totally wasted. My argument for this is, that there are some readers out there who are able to make up their mind based on solid arguments, therefor it's important to keep on making comments on those kind of websites. You will not necessary get through to those with their mind already convinced, but there is a chance you'll get the message to some of the readers who haven't had the opportunity to see the other side of the argument or for some other reason are trying to figure things out on those websites (which in some cases are set up in a "scientific" way).

So perhaps there is a chance to get to people by this way, otherwise we wouldn't be bothered...or what ;)
I totally agree. I was not suggesting that dorlomin stop arguing, just not to expect tochange any minds. But as you point out, those looking to learn can benefit from the proper reply/response to specious arguments on various websites.
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